What does it mean to be fully Krsna conscious?
Visala: I remember over five years ago you telling me about, "If you read the first nine cantos of Srimad-Bhagavatam, you become fully Krsna conscious." Would you kindly tell me what does it mean to be fully Krsna conscious?
Prabhupada: What do you understand, fully Krsna conscious?
Visala: What does it mean to be fully Krsna conscious?
Prabhupada: No, what you mean, first of all let me know.
Harikesa: What do you think fully Krsna concious means? You tell Prabhupada.
Visala: It's to see Krsna face to face?
Prabhupada: That means Krsna conscious? Everyone is seeing Krsna face to face. When you go to the temple Krsna is there, and you are seeing. Does it mean everyone is Krsna conscious?
Visala: No.
Prabhupada: Then what is the meaning of Krsna conscious?
Indian man: Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati [Bg. 18.54].
Prabhupada: Hm, that is part of Krsna consciousness, brahma bhutah. Real Krsna consciousness is: "Krsna is master, I am servant." This is Krsna consciousness.
Visala: To understand that you're the servant and Krsna is the master. I see.
Prabhupada: When you fully understand, that is your Krsna... That is Krsna conscious. [break] So long you think that "I can also become like Krsna," then you are not Krsna conscious.
Visala: In other words, if you still have material desires you can't be fully Krsna conscious.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is the beginning of Krsna consciousness, anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11]. Make all your material desires zero.
Visala: Thank you very much.
Prabhupada: That is Krsna conscious. You should only desire to serve Krsna. [break] ...clear or not?
Visala: Very clear. Thank you very much.
Harikesa: What if a person doesn't desire material enjoyment, but still, there is so much dirt?
Prabhupada: Hm? Who is that person who has no material desires?
Harikesa: A person really wants to be Krsna conscious, but somehow or another, so much dirts gets in the way.
Prabhupada: Yes. Dirt means it is not yet zero. I said that all material desires should be made zero.
Anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11].
Harikesa: As soon as the desires completely change, then everything else is purified.
Prabhupada: Yes. As Arjuna said, karisye vacana tava, nasto mohah: "Now my illusion is over. I agree to act as you say." This is Krsna conscious. Nasto moha smrtir labdh tvat prasadan madhusudana. [break] The moha is there. Moha means these desires are illusion, like dreaming. In dream we see so many things. They are all false. In dreaming I am seeing that somebody is coming to kill me but there is nobody, but still, I am dreaming. This is called moha. So when one is free from moha, then he's Krsna conscious. The whole material world is going on under such illusion. Therefore it is called maya. Hare Krsna. Thank you. (end)
(Morning Walk -- December 10, 1975, Vrndavana)
Visala: What does it mean to be fully Krsna conscious?
Prabhupada: No, what you mean, first of all let me know.
Harikesa: What do you think fully Krsna concious means? You tell Prabhupada.
Visala: It's to see Krsna face to face?
Prabhupada: That means Krsna conscious? Everyone is seeing Krsna face to face. When you go to the temple Krsna is there, and you are seeing. Does it mean everyone is Krsna conscious?
Visala: No.
Prabhupada: Then what is the meaning of Krsna conscious?
Indian man: Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati [Bg. 18.54].
Prabhupada: Hm, that is part of Krsna consciousness, brahma bhutah. Real Krsna consciousness is: "Krsna is master, I am servant." This is Krsna consciousness.
Visala: To understand that you're the servant and Krsna is the master. I see.
Prabhupada: When you fully understand, that is your Krsna... That is Krsna conscious. [break] So long you think that "I can also become like Krsna," then you are not Krsna conscious.
Visala: In other words, if you still have material desires you can't be fully Krsna conscious.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is the beginning of Krsna consciousness, anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11]. Make all your material desires zero.
Visala: Thank you very much.
Prabhupada: That is Krsna conscious. You should only desire to serve Krsna. [break] ...clear or not?
Visala: Very clear. Thank you very much.
Harikesa: What if a person doesn't desire material enjoyment, but still, there is so much dirt?
Prabhupada: Hm? Who is that person who has no material desires?
Harikesa: A person really wants to be Krsna conscious, but somehow or another, so much dirts gets in the way.
Prabhupada: Yes. Dirt means it is not yet zero. I said that all material desires should be made zero.
Anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11].
Harikesa: As soon as the desires completely change, then everything else is purified.
Prabhupada: Yes. As Arjuna said, karisye vacana tava, nasto mohah: "Now my illusion is over. I agree to act as you say." This is Krsna conscious. Nasto moha smrtir labdh tvat prasadan madhusudana. [break] The moha is there. Moha means these desires are illusion, like dreaming. In dream we see so many things. They are all false. In dreaming I am seeing that somebody is coming to kill me but there is nobody, but still, I am dreaming. This is called moha. So when one is free from moha, then he's Krsna conscious. The whole material world is going on under such illusion. Therefore it is called maya. Hare Krsna. Thank you. (end)
(Morning Walk -- December 10, 1975, Vrndavana)
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