Devotee (1): Do I have to join your movement to be happy? Can I just take Krsna consciousness outside your movement?
Devotee (1): So there is no possibility of me being Krsna conscious outside your movement.
Prabhupada: Krsna consciousness can be developed with devotees. Alone it is difficult.
Devotee (1): If I start my own community outside the movement?
Prabhupada: Yes. The community means many devotees.
Pusta Krsna: So you were saying, Srila Prabhupada, that if there is no happiness and one recognizes it, then he goes to guru.
Prabhupada: Then he must... Just like Arjuna submitted to Krsna because he was disturbed. So that is the point
where one must approach a guru, how to become happy. That is intelligence. Athato brahma jijnasa: "Now inquire about real happiness."
Pusta Krsna: So one who is looking for material happiness...
Prabhupada: He's a fool.
Pusta Krsna: ...it is very difficult for them to approach guru.
Prabhupada: He is a fool, rascal, blind. Where there is happiness not possible, he is trying to find out happiness. Therefore he is a fool. Which is not possible, if one tries for it, then he is fool.
Harikesa: But I look around and I see everybody else enjoying.
Prabhupada: Because you are fool, you are seeing like that. That is the proof that you are a fool.
Harikesa: They all tell me what a great time...
Prabhupada: Krsna says, duhkhalayam asasvatam [Bg. 8.15], and you are finding out happiness. Then how much fool you are. The best authority says that "This is a place of suffering," and you are finding out happiness. So how much fool you are, it is very difficult to estimate. (laughter) Therefore Vedic knowledge is perfect. Now just like there is signboard, "No admission." So who is the fool, create some trouble by entering into it? He's a fool. If there is signboard, "There is no admission," and if somebody enters to create some trouble, he is not a fool? So Krsna says, "There is no happiness," and if somebody searches happiness, he is not a fool? That is... Therefore Krsna consciousness required, that he gets perfect knowledge from Krsna. He has no trouble. Krsna said, "There is no happiness," and if somebody thinks, "All right, although Krsna said, let me try for it," then he is a fool.
Pusta Krsna: Similarly, they say that they can cure disease, but it's impossible.
Prabhupada: How it is possible? The disease is suffering, and this place is suffering, so where is the question of curing disease? Krsna consciousness means intelligence. We are guided by Krsna, so there is no trouble. Everything is all right. That is Krsna conscious. And as soon as you make experiment like fools and rascal, then you are doomed.
(Morning Walk -- October 20, 1975, Johannesburg)